John Gruber at XOXO 2014

If you read my piece for Jason Snell’s Six Colors blog, you know that I attended the XOXO Festival in Portland, OR, last month. Since the conference ended, The Andys have been posting the guest speakers talks on YouTube.

Here, John Gruber discusses running Daring Fireball and being “indie”.

It was after this presentation that I got to meet John and shake his hand, which was a huge thrill.